Enough is enough. Wait for n3 fix..

[Hot head link]

Thats what i would say too fonger

[igloo31]

Sorry guys, I'm not trying to be hurtful i just don't understand why some people feel the need to be so negative and try to bring everybody else down.

[shadiah]

I understand that this is frustrating. I also have seen this type of thread turn into something ugly. We will close it if it goes that way.

[nightsmoker]

Think its summer time and people are out playing golf and fishing,camp,ect.. so when summer hoildays are over then We mite get time for that .But what i thing when there is nothing to do then all there time will be on this not like DTV this game is not done yet .We are much closer then befor so waiting is the game .Plus look at Iks and all the other new items that are out We still have some Tv plus take a look at slinger they are almost all open wide so olny time will tell .Be Happy with what info you get take as ot comes.

[PEDCHIRI]

As a former production programer i really appreciate what these fellows are trying to get done....

[nsmickeyd]

Originally Posted by stsaf

I hate to say it, but I think he's right. I've been in this hobby since 1997 and have seen a lot come and go. N3 is Charlie's version of Dave's fix several years ago. Dave never was cracked and neither will Charlie. It's time to put away the cleats.

Well you maybe right or maybe wrong. But the big difference is Dave has his own broadcast and encryption system(This is where DSS comes from). It was created before the industry standard DVB that Charlie uses. Since Charlie uses DVB a lot more people have an understanding how it works which by itself will increase the chances of an exploit being discovered.
JMHO

[casinos]

Originally Posted by Fonger

or this thread getting closed...

Very Beautiful Icon !!! Man those Eyes are Just Gorgeous !!

[frizzle]

Originally Posted by nsmickeyd

Well you maybe right or maybe wrong. But the big difference is Dave has his own broadcast and encryption system(This is where DSS comes from). It was created before the industry standard DVB that Charlie uses. Since Charlie uses DVB a lot more people have an understanding how it works which by itself will increase the chances of an exploit being discovered.
JMHO

I agree and that is why I believe our fta boxes would not run a dave hack because our fta receivers run on dvb not dss

[nightsmoker]

Plus the testing we do now is more then befor when we where watch DTV Fta was as big as there are now ther are over 30 - 40 makes out there lots of company out here all afther the same thing .To risky Plus all of there Bv lawers had something to do with it.let keep it cool and see whats the out come of all this.all of dave cust are watch Dsh more channels inculding ints we get more the bether. I do miss my DTV to late in game now.

[cruzat]

Originally Posted by carl066

I seriously think that YOU ARE wrong. Being a cheerleader hoping for a fix and stringing people along, especially newcomers to this hobby, is not doing ANYONE a service, except for possibly keeping FTA sales barely above a trickle. N3 will NOT be broken! Charlie has spent over $100M to secure his system, and the lessons learned with the N2 debacle will pay off. In the meantime, if you continue to keep your rose-colored glasses on, I hope you can sleep at night.
Rumors abound that the G3 card has been hacked, yet there is no proof. Unless and until that happens, the coders are dead in the water.

I didn't say anything about people buying fta receiver's in fact I have said many times that I would not buy one right now until we know for sure whats going to happen.

I just think that you're wrong.

I have very good reason to believe that the card has been cracked.

We support all receivers here but don't work them or make any money of them in fact we don't make any money at all doing this we are volunteers.
But some of us do have access to information that some members may not.