KBOX and Nfusion Comparison

[JimMrBass]

Carnold, sir I honestly do not see the Pansat 250 coming into play except for Telefonica and from what I have been reading Telefonica (which is for South America) is going to be using N3 in a very short while.
Yes I would go with the Kbox or even the Nfusion as I have no ax to grind against the Nfusion , but if you decide to go with either the Kbox or the nfusion I would not go with the nfusionHD at this time.
Please read all the discussion forums and guides to dertermine which receiver you would want to purchase. My personal choices would come down to either the KBOX or the Phoenix. I do not own a Phoenix but I have heard good reports about them.
I do own the Kbox and it is an awesome receiver.
I sincerely hope this post may help you in your decision.

[Carnold]

Thanks,Mr. Jim, Can I use the same setup I have with Kbox? And are you getting good support with Kbox? I am wondering if 250sm will every return.....THANKS FOR YOUR RAPID REPLY.............THANKS AGAIN.....................

[tvinoff46]

mr Jim is absolutely correct on kbox.. my first iks box was the nfusion and i had it for at
least 5 months, i enjoyed it cant complaint except for those annoying freezing most of the time, the last UFC 104 was frustrating because of alternating OFF & freezing issue and even in the past. One more thing is Nfusion dont have all the international channels but again depends on your channel priority. as for the video quality its not that bad but not that very good either.

my 2nd iks now is the Kbox prodigy and boy you can tell the difference from the two. the kbox has a better picture quality than the nfusion even if its just connected to an SD tv, most people anyway does not own a HD TV like plasma or dlp or lcd so it doesnt matter as long the picture is clear, but since i have my kbox, i havent so far experience freezing
and aside from being connected hard wire to my Wireless N Router, no hassle of turning it on or changing channels are quick. i like it

k-box prodigy is the GO for IKS on my point of view.. recommended to my friends ..

cheerssssssssssss..............

[JimMrBass]

Carnold, the antenna settings are the same and there is an install guide in the Kbox guides forum should you decide to go with the Kbox.

[Carnold]

Thanks tvinoff46 & Mr. Jim for all the good info. You guys are great

[Beetlepumpr]

From some talking head supposedly from Nfusion was referring to the eventuality of all channels being added to Nfusion by Dec., my question is, with all the wind you Mods catch/get and meddle through, how relevant is this possibility? If it does happen, do you think in your best guestimation that other Boxes will pursue this in order to keep up sales and overall customer satisfaction? One more question that I have not found a concise answer to is ,I know that KBox can and does have the capability to run by IKS and run by loading software such as a Viewsat standalone (when and if N3 proggies get done etc.), which leads me to the question. Is there any other receivers out yet besides Kbox that has this option? Cause when and if the coders ever let go or smash through the N3, I myself if running a receiver this way and everyone else practically will be jumping off the servers if they have this option for safety and only to return to IKS during ECM downtime. Thanks for yer time.

[Bushmills]

Originally Posted by Beetlepumpr

From some talking head supposedly from Nfusion was referring to the eventuality of all channels being added to Nfusion by Dec., my question is, with all the wind you Mods catch/get and meddle through, how relevant is this possibility? If it does happen, do you think in your best guestimation that other Boxes will pursue this in order to keep up sales and overall customer satisfaction? One more question that I have not found a concise answer to is ,I know that KBox can and does have the capability to run by IKS and run by loading software such as a Viewsat standalone (when and if N3 proggies get done etc.), which leads me to the question. Is there any other receivers out yet besides Kbox that has this option? Cause when and if the coders ever let go or smash through the N3, I myself if running a receiver this way and everyone else practically will be jumping off the servers if they have this option for safety and only to return to IKS during ECM downtime. Thanks for yer time.

While I'm not a Mod, I will add in my 2 cents and hope that it may shed some light (or at least provide an opinion) - I too, heard the spokesman's committment that Nfusion will have all channels including all PPV up by xmas. Personally, I take this with a BIG grain of salt. Right now, not even Mods and coders know the true status of opening an N3 card. The veneer on the plastic is still not cracked (as far as we know), thus making the coder's engagement a moot point. While staying as professional as I can, let's look at the intent of a spokesman - to sell boxes.

Assuming he doesn't know something the rest of the "in the know" population doesn't, he's either VERY optimistic, or planning on buying EVERY SINGLE PPV, EVERY SINGLE SHOWING. Does that make sense? Of course not.

Again, they could be working on something truly groundbreaking, but I doubt it. At the end of the day, all he said was that all channels would be open, or people there could channel beg all they wanted. Not much of a risk, really.

Not sure about the other boxes, but I know Kbox has said they will provide both stand alone and IKS if / when a fix is available.

It all boils down to the fact that we're practically all still guessing, as if there is anyone TRULY in the know, they're not talking to anyone (and who could blame them at this point?). There's far too much risk in being "the Team" to put out the fix (if one did exist). Anyway, as always, I've rambled on far too long. I hope this helps somewhat. Please don't see this as a slight to Nfusion - if Team Kbox came out and said something like that, I'd be just as sceptical. Then again, that's what I appreciate about Kbox - they don't talk to anyone, they just do.
Cheers,
Bushmills

[JimMrBass]

Yes other receivers do have the Stand Alone capabilities such as Sonicview and CNX along with Kbox. Now as far as all the channels being available on on before Dec 1, I will have to wait before I pass judgment and then they may only pay for them for 1 month to boost sales. JMO, but I really do not see how they could afford to run a wide open card for any lengthy period. I would hope this would become a reality but I seriously doubt it.

[fdels]

Originally Posted by Beetlepumpr

From some talking head supposedly from Nfusion was referring to the eventuality of all channels being added to Nfusion by Dec., my question is, with all the wind you Mods catch/get and meddle through, how relevant is this possibility? If it does happen, do you think in your best guestimation that other Boxes will pursue this in order to keep up sales and overall customer satisfaction? One more question that I have not found a concise answer to is ,I know that KBox can and does have the capability to run by IKS and run by loading software such as a Viewsat standalone (when and if N3 proggies get done etc.), which leads me to the question. Is there any other receivers out yet besides Kbox that has this option? Cause when and if the coders ever let go or smash through the N3, I myself if running a receiver this way and everyone else practically will be jumping off the servers if they have this option for safety and only to return to IKS during ECM downtime. Thanks for yer time.

I have my doubts about nfusion going to be able to provide and have working every DN channel by Dec 1st, they have been adding channels steadily and have almost finished with adding all the international channels and others such as sports channels both in SD and HD, I have been using nfusion for close to 3 years and have learned that they do have two of the best coders in the business, with that said and although I may have doubts I'm not completely counting out nfusion's statement for all DN channels will be working by Dec 1st including ppv
nfusion has stated that if nag3 is broken and standalone is made possible once again that nfusion will provide both methods for viewing, iks and standalone

the only reason nfusion stopped producing standalone nag2 files in the first place was for a few reasons, they expected the switch over to nag3 to happen much sooner, knowing that nag3 would be difficult to crack they decided on perfecting their iks system so they would be ahead when the time came knowing that only iks would be the only working solution to use for nag3 for a long time to come, and possibly the only solution

can not comment on other receiver's plans for standalone files in the future but I have read that even if there is a crack made available and standalone files start to surface that the providers will be able to throw constant ecm's if they wish making it impossible for the third party coders to write files that quickly, the coders will not be able to keep up as the changes that can be made to the code can be made at anytime by the providers, a standalone solution would be great as long as it were to work for an extended period of time and not just hours or minutes like the providers claim it will, this is by no way a fact and I just wanted to pass along what I've read in regards to standalone files and nag3

[Gary Gnu]

Originally Posted by fdels

the only reason nfusion stopped producing standalone nag2 files in the first place was for a few reasons, they expected the switch over to nag3 to happen much sooner, knowing that nag3 would be difficult to crack they decided on perfecting their iks system so they would be ahead when the time came knowing that only iks would be the only working solution to use for nag3 for a long time to come, and possibly the only solution

Nfusion stopped standalone files so other receivers such as Bluejay, Tessat, Neosat and 1 other could not be supported.... Fact. If you need verification of that search the internet and see what the users of those receivers have to say...