An analysis of current events...

[falcon]

Let's all take a step back and view what's going on....

FTA is down and out. Or so DISH wants us to think.
A similar fate befell us when the HU went out and the P4 came in.

What's different?

Well, when the HU went out, no manufacturer or importer had any major funds tied up in it. What? Ok. Maybe some HU cards and some Loaders/Unloopers, but nothing significant. So who would work on a fix? The software gurus who

1. wanted the challenge
2. wanted the resulting $$$ if they were successful

With FTA, it's different. Because they are not selling "scripts and Script Support" or cheap loaders/unloopers, they are manufacturing and importing 1,000s of FTA receivers.

In the case of the major distributor of Ariza products, he has at least 1 warehouse full of receivers, another few containers on the ocean, a few thousand more receivers being built, and the huge payment he had to make to software developers for the last fix to the tune many times $100,000 dollars. Add it all up, and this manufacturer alone has millions tied up in useless inventory.

Multiply this across Viewsat, Pansat, Coolsat, etc. and you see the picture. So if each of these guys pours a $1,000,000 into "whatever it takes" getting things working, they will do it or risk losing all previous investments.

This scenario never occured with HU to P4 switch, so the pressure wasn't the same to get things done.

So, in short, the chance for an FTA hack is not nearly as bleak as the one for P4. The FTA hack stands a much better chance of success because of the enormous amount of $$$ behind it giving it a push. With a similar $$$ push, the P4 could be just as easily hacked. Hell, they are just chips made by man. And tiny ones at that, that basically trickle down to the very basic bits of 0s and 1s in assembler.

[wrangler]

That about say's it all Falcon. Money talks and bull**** walks.

[thegame1]

bingo falcon u have hit the nail on the head..an accurate assessment of the situation

[oldcrow]

excellent post boss.

[iamopie321]

This is a great explanation of where we are at and where we are going.

Along these same lines, I believe we all need to keep this in mind when considering buying new equipment at some point down the road. The major players will continue to do "whatever it takes", as long as current and future sales warrant spending the time and money necessary to come up with a fix. Each person using an FTA receiver is impacting the bottom line of these companies, so at least factor this in when you are wrestling with the decsion as to whether or not to buy the latest and greatest offering

[Fonger]

Originally Posted by iamopie321

...so at least factor this in when you are wrestling with the decsion as to whether or not to buy the latest and greatest offering

you're right iamopie321, i think if anyone out there is considering buying new ftas (when they come out), the best advice i think is to haul over to dssrookie and see what some of the mods/members suggest. we're all testing and sharing together right?

[cowboisat]

One of the best logical post I have seen posted in a while

Should be sticky to remind ppl not to whine about fixes since dealers has a lot more to lose than us.

[boobmeister]

So if there is indeed multi millions of dollars tied up in FTA boxes and accessories, then why so few coders? Also how much faith do we have in the statement that the MAP has been fully decoded? If so then why is it stated to not purchase any new hardware? None really makes much sense however i do believe that there will be a fix.

[johnny686]

Wow Guys,
Keep Up The Faith Things Will Work Out Soon
Johnny 626

[seconds2none]

how about FTA on DTV? If it's possible on DN, then why not DTV as well?