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Old 08-09-2009, 06:11 PM
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H.R.1388 - The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act

I'm posting this because I'm not sure if most Americans have heard about this law.

I'll post a link to the bill below and you can go and read it for your self but what it is basically is that everyone between the ages of 18 and 25 will have to do 100 hours of community work each year.
First of all I'm not at all for forcing our kids into a community work program.

But some of the wording in the law is scary as hell.
For one thing part of their community work will involve defence training.
Yeah if you are thinking Hitler's brown shirts then you are thing like me.
For those who don't know Adolf Hitler put together a similar program in Nazi Germany.
Before anyone ask this bill was sponsored by Senator Kennedy at the request of Adolf Obama opps I meant Barack Obama.

Here is a link to where you read the text of the bill.
/http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/text

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Let's see.....so far he hasn't gotten us in any unnecessary preemptive wars or suspended any constitutional rights like the last guy so I'm not complaining......
Well his one more place that I can say so much for the 2nd amendment.

This is from the bill/law.
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‘(a) Prohibited Activities- An approved national service position under this subtitle may not be used for the following activities:CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(1) Attempting to influence legislation.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to Federal office or the outcome of an election to a State or local public office.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

‘(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of proselytization, consistent with section 132.
Now keep in mind that this program is mandatory so based on the paragraph that I posted in the quote above it would make it illegal for anyone between the ages of 18 to 25 to engage in religious activities.

By the way here's a nice video that someone put up on youtube about this law.
YouTube - U.S. GOVERNMENT BANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND RELIGON!!!! H.R. 1388 PASSED!!!

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I believe in what the bible says: and the scripture about just laws

It makes you wander when the churches will start seeing, adverse effects when people starts standing up against "STUPIDITIE"

May be thats what we are seeing around the country at these town hall meetings

And No I didnt vote for him or even like him

The government hasnt been for the people in a long time

How come we as a people cant come together and unseat some of these people
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Now that you mentioned the town hall meetings.

The SEIU members are being urged by democrats to disrupt town hall protests.
YouTube - SEIU Obama Supporter Smashes Woman Tea Party Protester In Face

YouTube - Are you paying attention now?

The dems say that the protesters are a scary mob and the director of DHS said that protesters wore swastikas.

Here are a few pics of those scary protesters the Obama government want to silence.

Truth is ordinary people are starting to speak up and speak out and yes it has Obama and the rest of the corrupt government scared.

Taxation without Representation is what we now have in this country.
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When I first saw this the words that occured were slave labour but on reflection dictatorship is a better description. Those that try to enact such laws can accurately be described as taliban wannabe's
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Yeah...Obummers hall meeting was pathetic, especially the fed ex,ups, and usps comment. He's an idiot. Is it 2012 yet?
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I wondered where all the "Obama Haters" went to cry on each others shoulders. Guess I found it.
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I wondered where all the "Obama Haters" went to cry on each others shoulders. Guess I found it.

I hope HE fails, and all of his leftist policies with HIM.

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I wondered where all the "Obama Haters" went to cry on each others shoulders. Guess I found it.
Well as far as the communist health car bill I see that Obama and the Senate are starting to back down and the hand full of people that still support Obama are the ones that are crying now.

Obama found out that real true Americans are not going stand for his Marxist BS.

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Ok! This an independent summary of the bill being discussed here. Is it the fact that it was proposed by a Democrat (of course he has to be an extreme liberal) that you Ditto heads, neo-cons or what ever you fanatic Conservatist call yourselves are against it. Read it and lets go through it item by item to see how this will destroy America.



Highlights of the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act



H.R. 1388, Senate-passed as of 3-26-2009

Reauthorizes and Expands the Mission of the Corporation for National and Community Service, by:


Increasing Opportunities for Americans of All Ages to Serve
Puts young people onto a path of national service by establishing a Summer of Service program to provide $500 education awards for rising 6th-12th graders, a Semester of Service program for high school students to engage in service-learning, and Youth Empowerment Zones for secondary students and out-of-school youth.

Dramatically increases intensive service opportunities by setting AmeriCorps on a path from 75,000 positions annually to 250,000 by 2017, and focusing that service on education, health, clean energy, veterans, economic opportunity and other national priorities. Ties the Segal AmeriCorps Education Award to the maximum Pell Grant level (now $5,350, but set to increase over time).

Improves service options for experienced Americans by expanding age and income eligibility for Foster Grandparents and Senior Companions, authorizing a Silver Scholars program, under which individuals 55 and older who perform 350 hours of service receive a $1,000 education award, and establishing Serve America Fellowships and Encore Fellowships allowing individuals to choose from among registered service sponsors where to perform service. Also permits individuals age 55 and older to transfer their education award to a child or grandchild.

Enables millions of working Americans to serve by establishing a nationwide Call to Service Campaign and a September 11 national day of service, and investing in the nonprofit sector’s capacity to recruit and manage volunteers.

Supporting Innovation and Strengthening the Nonprofit Sector
Creates a Social Innovation Fund to expand proven initiatives and provide seed funding for experimental initiatives, leveraging Federal dollars to identify and grow ideas that are addressing our most intractable community problems.

Establishes a Volunteer Generation Fund to award grants to states and nonprofits to recruit, manage, and support volunteers and strengthen the nation’s volunteer infrastructure.

Authorizes Nonprofit Capacity Building grants to provide organizational development assistance to small and mid-size nonprofit organizations.
Creates a National Service Reserve Corps of former national service participants and veterans who will be trained to deploy, in coordination with FEMA, in the event of disasters.

Strengthening Management, Cost-Effectiveness, and Accountability
Merges funding streams, expands the use of simplified, fixed amount grants, and gives the Corporation flexibility to consolidate application and reporting requirements. Increases support for State Commissions on national and community service. Bolsters the capacity and duties of the Corporation’s Board of Directors.

Ensures that programs receiving assistance under national service laws are continuously evaluated for effectiveness in achieving performance and cost goals.

Introduces responsible and balanced competition to the RSVP program.

Authorizes a Civic Health Assessment comprised of indicators relating to volunteering, voting, charitable giving, and interest in public service in order to evaluate and compare the civic health of communities.


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