Greetings and a legal thought...

[voop]

Originally Posted by smokymtn

Well Voop

I am not harasing but I don't know of any web site that I can goto right now and Watch USA, Locals PPV etc...

Nag3...duh....
And where did I ever type/use the word "NOW"...in reference to the working files...?
My reference was to the recent past.
Reread it.

-Voop

[voop]

Originally Posted by smokymtn

**FOR FREE** because I sub for my channels

What do you mean you "sub" for your channels? Substitute?

Lately I just watch off air locals...but I sure miss Encore Westerns....you have a free sub for Encore Westerns ????

Startn to look like Na3 is unhackable in any near future...as days pass...You thinks so too?

Thanks,
-Voop

[Dispatcher2117]

I think this is gettting a little too long for the intro area so I moved it to Legal Issues Forum.

[olympusom]

space is a physical property not intellectual property.

[smokymtn]

"sub" subscribe

Don't you subscribe, because this is my hobbie testing sats

[Nukem1]

Originally Posted by shadiah

Voop, you may be technically correct. I personally think it wouldn't hold up in court. I do agree with you in principle, a judge may not.

i think shadiah is correct its just like saying that if an airplane flew in to my airspace i have the right to shoot it down because its trespassing lol

[Nukem1]

there are awalys other laws to over come or take presidance over other laws you might want to read the DMCA

[wrangler]

Nice spin but it won't fly. People were gettin certified letters for buyin smart card readers back when and they have a multitude of uses. I won't shoot any planes down but I am thinking of charging them a fee for using my airspace. We must all own some lots on various planets if this is taken literally but remember, your really guilty until proven innocent and not the other way around. I don't think there's an attorney on earth that would take this arguement to court on a contingency basis. Try to moralize this any way you want but your still stealing!

[smokymtn]

My understanding and I could be wrong is that Air Space is Nationlized and Free domain unless you are able to enforce your will, (aka Government)

Its almost like we don't have the rights to the ora underground

Anything that the common people or inventive people find to go around the system, is deemed Unlawful

I am not talking about theft of property or malice,

But when you can descramble a signal for your use should be aloud, just because the Signal people try to get cheaper by broadcasting in the open air, you would have to expect that.

But Dont the Government do this all the time, in the name of defense.

[Digital Gravy]

Voop
Something I've looked at and think could be used as a good defense is, (The Federal "Discard Law"). This law was enacted to allow law enforcement to legally search your curbside trash for contraband i.e. drugs/ messages/ recipes, excreta.
The theory is that once (personal property) is discarded like say (i.e. a satellite signal), it becomes the property of whoever receives said property. This law has been used successfully in many court cases. If you used it in your defense and a judge over turned it, it would in fact over turn several thousand drug convictions that used the "discard law" to win convictions. Think about it.... and research it!