Update to DN Vs. TDG

[wrangler]

True, it has nothing to do with this thread. If you guys have a problem, then take it up with PMs. JMO!

[billyboston]

whenever is see someone that self proclaims they are the best and will help you if your scammed to get your money back, then when they try to.. me the scammed get nothing
you the scam fighter gets paid off by my scammer.

end result luna gets free stuff receivers and stuff and in return luna get rid of threads complaining about being scammed by this guy pepsidrinker <-he is staff on fta4life. thats how he was able to scam so many.

it looks to me like everyone got what the wanted
except me and everyone that was ripped off. pepsidrinker got what he wanted his bad rep turned good by luna. luna got paid to cover up the scam by perminately deleting threads and posts from all the complainers. and then make him "Luna Approved" by doing that you increase his sales ability to scam ever MORE people which i have recently gound out.. HE HAS SCAMMED AGAIN

cept now this is Luna's fault completely

scam me once its your fault
scam me twice its my fault
scam me with help from a "scam fighter" in leagues with the scammer, its the "scam fighters fault

So have been scammed by pepsidrinker still out my money and i have been scammed by luna the self proclaimed "scam fighter"
let me ask you a question luna when you got the recievers from pepsidrinker and affter lots of people complained and you told everyone you returned them, why did you send them to me or one of the others he ripped off? why did you give it back to him? that was mine, you shoulda given it to someone who actually paid money for it!

i am bitter yes
i got ripped off by pepsidrinker\
but i got ripped off even WORSE by luna not only did he steal my product and then send it back and not only also delete mine and others posts to cover it up, but he stole my trust in mankind there is no one worse than him in my opinion and most others

[KiowaEagle]

You got ripped off by pepsidrinker (aka cardboardbox, aka Mr. BoJangles). A lot of people did. When it was found that he was actually cardboardbox who had scammed so many before he was removed as staff at ftalife. At that point a deal was made where he repaid peeps that he had scammed and he was allowed to remain a member as BoJangles. Unfortunately leopards can't change their spots and he ended up scamming again.
It's unfortunate you were scammed by him but the fact remains it has nothing to do with this site. If you have a beef with someone we are NOT going to let you play it out here. This is the last and only time you will be warned about this. Find another venue.

[billyboston]

Originally Posted by KiowaEagle

You got ripped off by pepsidrinker (aka cardboardbox, aka Mr. BoJangles). A lot of people did. When it was found that he was actually cardboardbox who had scammed so many before he was removed as staff at ftalife. At that point a deal was made where he repaid peeps that he had scammed and he was allowed to remain a member as BoJangles. Unfortunately leopards can't change their spots and he ended up scamming again.
It's unfortunate you were scammed by him but the fact remains it has nothing to do with this site. If you have a beef with someone we are NOT going to let you play it out here. This is the last and only time you will be warned about this. Find another venue.

thank you KiowaEagle i understand
im a er here for years and year and never post, ive pm'd mods etc a few time to help where i can. but i felt this was important enough to speak up about. where i read post supporting luna stating how he considers himself some kind of hero to the community and one or two very naive people support his posts by says how hes helped the community for years.. hes only ever hurt the people he claims to help, makes money by blackmailing scammers/ and has coffee with his mutually respected jjgee everyday, to discuss? his words not mine.

i am done with this consider this my last mention of him
thank you for pointing out my errors and i will continue respecting this great site
keep up the good work

[lunavic50]

Originally Posted by billyboston

whenever is see someone that self proclaims they are the best and will help you if your scammed to get your money back, then when they try to.. me the scammed get nothing
you the scam fighter gets paid off by my scammer.

end result luna gets free stuff receivers and stuff and in return luna get rid of threads complaining about being scammed by this guy pepsidrinker <-he is staff on fta4life. thats how he was able to scam so many.

it looks to me like everyone got what the wanted
except me and everyone that was ripped off. pepsidrinker got what he wanted his bad rep turned good by luna. luna got paid to cover up the scam by perminately deleting threads and posts from all the complainers. and then make him "Luna Approved" by doing that you increase his sales ability to scam ever MORE people which i have recently gound out.. HE HAS SCAMMED AGAIN

cept now this is Luna's fault completely

scam me once its your fault
scam me twice its my fault
scam me with help from a "scam fighter" in leagues with the scammer, its the "scam fighters fault

So have been scammed by pepsidrinker still out my money and i have been scammed by luna the self proclaimed "scam fighter"
let me ask you a question luna when you got the recievers from pepsidrinker and affter lots of people complained and you told everyone you returned them, why did you send them to me or one of the others he ripped off? why did you give it back to him? that was mine, you shoulda given it to someone who actually paid money for it!

i am bitter yes
i got ripped off by pepsidrinker\
but i got ripped off even WORSE by luna not only did he steal my product and then send it back and not only also delete mine and others posts to cover it up, but he stole my trust in mankind there is no one worse than him in my opinion and most others

I call it BS

Whatever dude.

Nice story though to bad it didnt happen

Sorry guys nagra is obviously using this downtime to try discredit me AGAIN

Didnt work the first 50 times you tried to do it and it surely isnt going to work this time either.

I hope staff does the right thing here. Once again I apologize for this. Ive never scammed anyone and only try to help. I think most of you know that. If I was a scammer or a rat people I talk to would of already been sued. It has NEVER happened.

I hope the hack holds off for awhile so these yo yo's are soon out of a job.

My only post about this BS that comes directly from you know who and you know where.

Ive never sold or dealt ANY fta.

See this for what it is. An attack to shut me up.

Will NEVER WORK. I will chase and expose them until the game is over.

Once again Im sorry its here and I hope most of you know me better than this.

Remember its not me all over certain court docs. Its the ones I said where snitching. And off course they have to extract and mount some kind of revenge.

Fact is he payed his debts and even stuck around for anyone else to come forward and NO one ever did.

Ive said it a MILLION TIMES buy off of trusted and confirmed dealers. Its NOT my responsibilty or am I obligated to get ANYTHING back for anyone. We try and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to make EDUCATED judgments on who you purchase from. You have NO ONE to blame but yourself.

Three posts since 06? Whats that tell ya

And now a "story" about me? All 3 posts about me? Make any sense?

Read between the lines

Ive served this community for 10 years and have done my best. I have no regrets and Im not apologizing ANYMORE for ANYTHING.

I understand that "you" people have a job to do. Its becoming quite clear now on who "you" people are. Nothing to inform about so go after the rat catcher..

Whatever

[cruzat]

Ok both of you have had your say so lets drop it.

This thread is off course and if it continues then it will be closed.

To amplify KiowaEagle if something happens at another site leave it there.
We have enough trouble policing our own site and we sure as hell don't need to police someone else' site.

[sodusme]

Originally Posted by wrangler

If it's an impersonater then he's really done his homework. Phil has a very distinct style to his posts and after reading a few he had me convinced. Maybe it's just part of his new job working for Nagra. One would think that it's the only way a judge would even let him get near a computer. All this is just speculation on my part but I would still advise people to stay away. I know I will. There is definetly something phishy going on there.

Yeah very strange wrangler 'cause if I remember right he had all his computer equipment seized. Along of course with any "STB" related equipment. I can't believe that after the trouble he was in he would be brazen enough to return to the very thing he got pinched for....unless he's on DN's payroll. Luckily I don't encounter him on any of the boards I frequent.....if I do though you can make certain I will stay as far away from him as I can. I had buddy that got caught hacking into a university one time and hell he couldn't even get internet access for the longest time....court order. Of course like you said pure speculation....but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....its probably a duck!

[wrangler]

It has also been brought to my attention that he is on other sites using aliases and claiming to be a mouthpeice for VS. Hmmmm, the plot thickens. (are we back on subject yet or did I accidentally get on SS?)