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Old 11-05-2009, 07:04 PM
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:55 PM
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What I have heartburn with is the "not telling me they are searching" to me this is UNREASONABLE Search and Seizure.

I am supposed to be afforded reasonable protections and NOT telling me that they are searching for something I might have or done is NOT REASONABLE Search!!

I think I will start hacking into the DOD's Emails and when they take me to court I will just use this judges decision and say THEY HAVE NO PROTECTIONS TO THEIR EMAILS AS PER THE GOV't!!!! LOL

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Old 11-08-2009, 01:40 PM
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this is the new program that the FBI is using these days for ip address, emails, etc

Narus is a US private company which produces mass surveillance systems. It was founded in 1997 by Ori Cohen, who had been in charge of technology development for VDONet, an early media streaming pioneer.[1]

It is notable for being the creator of NarusInsight, a supercomputer system which is used by the NSA and other bodies to perform mass surveillance and monitoring of citizens' and corporations' Internet communications in real-time, and whose installation in AT&T's San Francisco Internet backbone gave rise to a 2006 class action lawsuit by the Electronic Frontier Foundation against AT&T, Hepting v. AT&T. [2]

System Specification & Capabilities

Some features of NarusInsight include:[4]

* Scalability to support surveillance of large, complex IP networks (such as the Internet)
* High-speed Packet processing performance, which enables it to sift through the vast quantities of information that travel over the Internet.
* Normalization, Correlation, Aggregation and Analysis provide a model of user, element, protocol, application and network behaviors, in real-time. That is it can track individual users, monitor which applications they are using (e.g. web browsers, instant messaging applications, email) and what they are doing with those applications (e.g. which web sites they have visited, what they have written in their emails/IM conversations), and see how users' activities are connected to each other (e.g. compiling lists of people who visit a certain type of web site or use certain words or phrases in their emails).
* High reliability from data collection to data processing and analysis.
* NarusInsight's functionality can be configured to feed a particular activity or IP service such as security, lawful intercept or even Skype detection and blocking.
* Compliance with CALEA and ETSI.
* Certified by Telecommunication Engineering Center(TEC) in India for Lawful Intercept and Monitoring Systems for ISPs

The intercepted data flows into NarusInsight Intercept Suite. This data is stored and analyzed for surveillance and forensic analysis purposes.

Other capabilities include playback of streaming media (i.e. VoIP), rendering of web pages, examination of e-mail and the ability to analyze the payload/attachments of e-mail or file transfer protocols. Narus partner products, such as Pen-Link, offer the ability to quickly analyze information collected by the Directed Analysis or Lawful Intercept modules.

A single NarusInsight machine can monitor traffic equal to the maximum capacity (10 Gbit/s) of around 39,000 DSL lines or 195,000 telephone modems. But, in practical terms, since individual internet connections are not continually filled to capacity, the 10 Gbit/s capacity of one NarusInsight installation enables it to monitor the combined traffic of several million broadband users.

According to a company press release, the latest version of NarusInsight Intercept Suite (NIS) is "the industry's only network traffic intelligence system that supports real-time precision targeting, capturing and reconstruction of webmail traffic... including Google Gmail, MSN Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail, and Gawab Mail (English and Arabic versions)." [5]

It can also perform semantic analysis of the same traffic as it is happening, in other words analyze the content, meaning, structure and significance of this entire traffic, as it is happening. The exact use of this data is not fully documented, as the public is not authorized to see what types of activities and ideas are being watched for.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:39 PM
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It's "big brother" operating on the net. Thank "dubya" for the patriot act and kiss your cardsharing a$$ goodbye.
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I was wondering if i have a proxy somewhere (in some exotic country which doesn't cooperate with US) how do they can trace my real IP here?
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:10 AM
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Proxy servers keep a log and you can still be traced to your original IP.
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Cool Proxy servers keep a log.

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Proxy servers keep a log and you can still be traced to your original IP.


The Internet protocol address is a unique address used to identify computers on a network similar to a street address for a house. If someone wants look up your IP ...It's requiere a court order. DISH is looking for whales, not tilapias...Looking for serveres, not users.
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Regarding the "looking up" of i.p's I posted this on another forum but think it will be of use here as well. Someone had questioned whether getting a subpoena was easy or hard for an i.p address. Here's the response:

Question: Don't judges review subpoenas before they are sent to ISPs?

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No. The issuing of civil subpoenas is not monitored by the court handling the case. Under the normal rules of discovery in civil lawsuits, parties to a suit can simply send a subpoena to anyone they believe has information that could be useful. That information doesn't even have to be relevant to the lawsuit, as long as it could possibly lead to the discovery of relevant information. The only way that a court will evaluate an identity-seeking subpena is if either the ISP or the target of the subpoena files a motion asking the judge to block the subpoena. Unfortunately, in practice that rarely happens. That is because these subpoenas usually have a short, roughly 7-day deadline, and because many people never even find out that their Internet data has been subpoenaed.
Source: hxxp://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca-sub/faq.cgi

Now of course some joker is going to look at that and say "But that deals with the DMCA....this is DN"....yup you are absolutely correct. I will point out though that if you have read even ONE court document posted in the last few months...you will see subsections of the DMCA quoted as being used to protect DN's copyright signal. In fact I would bet you could count the word DMCA at least a dozen times in any recent court document. Its not as hard as everyone assumes to subpoena an isp for its users identity as linked to an i.p address. I've looked up my terms of service (Comcast) and can tell you the way its written they will roll on you in a heartbeat.
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Not sure about the USA but in Canada there is no more warrants needed to get your ISP record.
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